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[golygu] Monobook.js
Tua wythnos a hanner yn ôl wnes i ychwanegu sgript (sydd yn bodoli ar llawer o'r wicïau eraill) i MediaWici:Monobook.js er mwyn newid y tab ar frig y hafan felly mae'n darllen "hafan" yn lle "erthygl", ac i gael gwared ar y pennawd sy'n darllen "Hafan" fel 'teitl' y dudalen. Mae'n ymddangos nawr bod hyn yn gweithio. Ro'n i'n meddwl dylai gadael neges rhag ofn bod hyn yn peri syndod i unrhywun! --Adam (Sgwrs) 17:43, 11 Ionawr 2008 (UTC)
- diolch Adam. Lloffiwr 23:53, 11 Ionawr 2008 (UTC)
[golygu] Duplicate image to be deleted: use Crystal Clear app wp.png
Please replace Image:Crystal 128 wp.png with Image:Crystal Clear app wp.png. It will be deleted soon from Wikimedia Commons as a duplicate. Cheers! Siebrand 13:53, 22 Ionawr 2008 (UTC)
Diolch yn fawr/Thank you. Done on Hafan. Anatiomaros 18:25, 22 Ionawr 2008 (UTC)
[golygu] newid dolen os gwelwch yn dda
Rwy wedi symud 'blwch tywod' i 'pwll tywod' achos bod hon yn ymddangos bod yn ei defnyddio'n fwy arferol. (Ydy 'blwch tywod' yn gyfieithiad 'sandbox' yn Saesneg yr UDA?) All rhywun newid y ddolen o'r hafan os gwelwch yn dda? Diolch.
- Wedi newid blwch i bwll. Byddai wedi bod yn dda cael trafod y newid hwn cyn mynd ati - nid fy mod yn gwrthwynebu'r newid. Af ati i newid y negeseuon sy'n cael eu heffeithio gan hyn pan gaf gyfle, os na fydd rhywun arall wedi gwneud cyn fi. Lloffiwr 09:28, 12 Mawrth 2008 (UTC)
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- Diolch. "Byddai wedi bod yn dda cael trafod y newid hwn cyn mynd ati." -- mae pob newidiad yn gallu cael ei ddadwneud yn hawdd.
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- Pwynt Lloffiwr yw ei fod yn syniad trafod rhywbeth fel hyn yn gyntaf yn arbennig i dudalen reit pwysig fel yr Hafan, a bod hynny'n well na gwneud newidiadau di-ddiwedd. Hefyd cofia lofnodi dy sylwadau gyda '~~~~' :-) --Ben Bore 10:13, 12 Mawrth 2008 (UTC)
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- Ok diolch. Mh96 10:24, 12 Mawrth 2008 (UTC)
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[golygu] No habla Cymraeg, sorry!
Hi! I translated Wicipedia:Cymraeg into Turkish (under my IP address rather than my username - this was before I got an account on the Welsh Wikipedia), so can an administrator please add Türkçe to the list of languages in the Cymraeg section, please? Thanks in advance. Runningfridgesrule 20:49, 10 Ebrill 2008 (UTC)
[golygu] newidiad bach
All rhywun newid "Learner's Corner" i "Learners' Corner" (Cornel y Dysgwyr) os gwelwch yn dda. Dwi'n reit fussy am ddefnydd cywir y collnod yn Saesneg, ond dwi ddim â'r gallu ei newid. Diolch. Alan012 07:36, 18 Gorffennaf 2008 (UTC)
- Wedi ei wneud. Rhion 07:43, 18 Gorffennaf 2008 (UTC)
- Diolch. Alan012 07:50, 18 Gorffennaf 2008 (UTC)
[golygu] Reduce to semi-protection?
Sorry for saying this in English.
You'll see above that I requested a minor change because I can't edit this page. Now Rhion kindly obliged within minutes, and in any case I suspect (from the discussion in the Caffi) that I myself will have admin rights myself sometime soon, but it does make me think that it would be worth trying semi-protection of the main page, so that logged-in users can still edit it. This will still be enough to stop most casual vandalism. As it is, there are a number of included templates that aren't protected, and they don't in practice get constantly vandalised, so the threat to the main page probably isn't that severe (though it may be worth putting a comment a the top of the wiki source to say please discuss before doing any kind of major overhaul). Thanks. Alan012 07:55, 18 Gorffennaf 2008 (UTC)
- Seems fair enough. We had a bad spell of vandalism some time ago with this being a regular target, if I remember correctly. I see no reason against removing the semi-protect for now: we can always slap it on again if it gets vandalised. The actual front page, rather than the Sgwrs, should remain protected of course, for obvious reasons. By the way, if you have a list of vulnerable templates maybe we should consider semi-protecting them if they're important enough - even a change with the best of intentions could prove "inconvenient" and I think it's standard practice on other wikipedias. It would help if we had an anti-vandal bot here as well; there are a number on en., for instance. Anatiomaros 18:21, 18 Gorffennaf 2008 (UTC)
- Ah, no, I really was talking about the main page itself, not this talk page, and I was talking about *reducing* its level of protection, from current full protection to semi-protection. Looking at the history of vandalism to this talk page seems to bear out my feeling that it's largely by anons. The only one I spotted by a logged in user was one called "Dumb Saesneg", and given that semi-protect also covers newly created usernames (for the first few days), that one would have been blocked on the basis of inappropriate username before it had aged enough to be able to edit semi-protected pages. But if conversely we wanted to go fully the other way from what I'm suggesting, then what we would do is add *cascading* page protection, that automatically protects every included template (and in principle any templates that they include, etc) Alan012 19:34, 18 Gorffennaf 2008 (UTC)
- Ah, I see. I'd misunderstood. But as the "Front Page" is so important even if we open it up for trusted users any change, other than the most minor of spelling corrections, should be discussed first, I think. If I recall rightly, the only time I've changed anything related to it was in response to a request from metawiki. The problem is not "mistrusting" regular contributors but the fact that anyone could log in, make a few innocuous edits, then come back in a week or so and wreak havoc. But I'll see what other contributors have to say on this. There must be guidance on this and similar issues somewhere as well. Maybe Deb would know? The protection can always be lifted temporarily in order for someone not otherwise permitted to do so make an agreed change and restored afterwards. Had you anything particular in mind? Anatiomaros 19:59, 18 Gorffennaf 2008 (UTC)
- No, nothing particular. Just that I'd had to ask just to change an apostrophe, so I wondered if this extra level of hassle might be deterring people from making other potentially useful minor changes. But obviously there are pros and cons. It's not something I've strong feelings about, but worth raising at least. Alan012 22:37, 18 Gorffennaf 2008 (UTC)
- Ah, I see. I'd misunderstood. But as the "Front Page" is so important even if we open it up for trusted users any change, other than the most minor of spelling corrections, should be discussed first, I think. If I recall rightly, the only time I've changed anything related to it was in response to a request from metawiki. The problem is not "mistrusting" regular contributors but the fact that anyone could log in, make a few innocuous edits, then come back in a week or so and wreak havoc. But I'll see what other contributors have to say on this. There must be guidance on this and similar issues somewhere as well. Maybe Deb would know? The protection can always be lifted temporarily in order for someone not otherwise permitted to do so make an agreed change and restored afterwards. Had you anything particular in mind? Anatiomaros 19:59, 18 Gorffennaf 2008 (UTC)
- Ah, no, I really was talking about the main page itself, not this talk page, and I was talking about *reducing* its level of protection, from current full protection to semi-protection. Looking at the history of vandalism to this talk page seems to bear out my feeling that it's largely by anons. The only one I spotted by a logged in user was one called "Dumb Saesneg", and given that semi-protect also covers newly created usernames (for the first few days), that one would have been blocked on the basis of inappropriate username before it had aged enough to be able to edit semi-protected pages. But if conversely we wanted to go fully the other way from what I'm suggesting, then what we would do is add *cascading* page protection, that automatically protects every included template (and in principle any templates that they include, etc) Alan012 19:34, 18 Gorffennaf 2008 (UTC)
[golygu] Llun y ddraig
Yma ar gomun, mae'n ddweud "A vector version of this image (SVG) is available. It should be used in place of this raster image when superior." Dw i wedi creu prawf-gopi o'r hafan, sy'n cynnwys y fersiwn SVG, gwelwch Hafan/Prawf. Oes unrhyw reswm dros beidio a'i ddefnyddio? Alan 10:03, 3 Awst 2008 (UTC)
- Dwi ddim yn gwybod am unrhyw reswm dros gadw'r hen fersiwn - mae'n debyg mai hwnnw oedd yr unig fersiwn oedd i'w gael, neu'r un gorau, pan osodwyd ef gyntaf. Yn cefnogi'r newid os na ddaw rhyw reswm technegol i'r amlwg dros beidio â newid. Lloffiwr 10:22, 3 Awst 2008 (UTC)
- Dwi newydd dod ar hyd i hyn ar hap trwy'r dudalen Hafan/Prawf. Cytuno nad oes problem o gwbl wrth gyfnewid y llun ffeil png am un svg. Anatiomaros 19:27, 11 Medi 2008 (UTC)
[golygu] Dolen at ystadegau
Mae angen ail-ysgrifennu'r dudalen Wicipedia:Ystadegau Wicipedia Cymraeg yn ddybryd. Gan nad oes neb wedi mynd ati i wneud hynny, rwyn bwriadu tynnu'r cyswllt ato oddi ar yr Hafan. Pan gaiff ei hail-ysgrifennu digon rhwydd fydd dodi'r cyswllt ar yr Hafan eto. Mae dau gyswllt at y dudalen arbennig Ystadegau ar yr Hafan yn barod, felly nid ydym heb wybodaeth ystadegol wedi ei gysylltu â'r hafan. Yn lle'r cyswllt rwyn bwriadu gosod cyswllt at y dudalen arbennig Fersiwn. Lloffiwr 21:04, 5 Hydref 2008 (UTC)
